“These are all great cymbals, the best of the best by this fantastic company.
I could happily play any of them for the rest of my career.”
These are new cymbals for sale, specially selected by Todd Bishop— read about how Todd chooses these cymbals. In all types and weights of cymbal, we look for an excellent, defined ride sound, responsiveness to accents with the shoulder of the stick, an explosive crash, and a strong, musical bell sound. Unless otherwise stated, all cymbals are good for both riding and crashing, and handle well at all dynamics from extremely soft to very strong.
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Currently available cymbals:
Cymbals are listed by size. If you’re shopping for a set of cymbals, use the “play video in new tab” links to hear two or more cymbals at once. Archived list of sold cymbals is at the bottom, with video links for comparison.
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LEON COLLECTION SALE – ONGOING
Remaining Leon Collection cymbals from our Leon Blowout sale will be marked down 25% from regular site prices until sold!
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 22″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 2267g – “Mathias” – $480.00
Holy Grail jazz rides with the squarish 50s-style “A”-type bell tend to be rather aggressive cymbals, with a few more wild harmonics— an aggressive 50s sound rather than a mellow 50s sound. Higher pitched with a lovely energetic crash sound. This is very much like my own main 22″ cymbal.
ON SALE – 22″ Leon Collection Light Ride – 2106g – “Aramis” – $450.00 / -25%: $325
Full lower pitched ride. Massive roll sound. Wash is quite lush– this cymbal may want lighter sticks. Exactly the same weight as its companion Briand, with a quite different sound.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 21″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 2046g – “Laszlo” – $460.00
Excellent, full voiced main ride, smoky, rather exotic. Reminiscent of Art Blakey— listen to the crash at the end of the video.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Janavar Crash-Ride – 1725g – “Grayson” – $425.00
The Janavar line are B20 cymbals inspired by a famous European B8 line from the 1960s. It’s one of C&G’s brighter lines, perhaps more lush than the Merseybeat line, more aggressive than the Leon Collection cymbals. This would make an excellent left side cymbal contrasting a warmer/smokier main ride. Rides well.
UPDATE: This cymbal is being subjected to a little transformation. Since the video was made, it has been given a special heavy patina with greenish highlights, which controls the sound quite a bit, and brings out a bit of an exotic edge. We’ll be adding three rivets as well. This should be a great contrasting left side cymbal alongside a Holy Grail main ride. Video of the patinated cymbal coming soon!
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1755g – “Frankie” – $425.00
Relatively bright Holy Grail— compare with the 20″ “Bobby”. Frankie is even happier(?), with a cleaner character, and a lively crash sound.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1784g – “Bobby” – $425.00
Rather unique character— another relatively bright “K” type cymbal. Lively, responsive to subtle dynamics, handles beautifully.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1810g – “Jimmy” – $425.00
Pure classic jazz cymbal, medium pitch, with the slightest funky edge- crash sound decays rather quickly.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1839g – “Jonesy” – $425.00
Rather brawny jazz classic.
Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1804 grams – “Junior” – $425.00
Jazz ride, excellent left side cymbal, that can easily serve as a main ride. Like all of the best Cymbal & Gong cymbals, it’s a controllable, playable cymbal that both rides and crashes well. Similar to “Desmond”, a companion 20″ from the same run of cymbals— Junior is slightly higher pitched, slightly more complex.
Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1713 grams – “Amos” – $425.00
Great, delicate, smoky jazz ride. Excellent left side cymbal, controllable, good crash sound.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Merseybeat Crash-Ride “Simon” – 1915 grams – $425.00
Pleasingly bright light ride. Crashable, but with good stick definition through a range of dynamics— the wash does not over ride the stick sound. Strong bell. Crash sound has a lovely high peak. 4 rivets.
Cymbal & Gong 19″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride “Curtis” – 1628 grams – $375.00
Medium jazz ride. Solid enough to function as a main ride where a higher sound is desired, or for travel. Good candidate for added rivets.
ON SALE – 19″ Leon Collection Crash-Ride – 1680g – “Beaufort” – $390.00 / -25%: $292
Solid, lively crash-ride for the left side. Clean sound, high pitch, good candidate for added rivets.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 18″ Custom Turk Jazz Ride – 1424g – “Masaru” – $355.00
Masaru and Minoru were custom ordered together— Masaru is higher pitched and cleaner sounding. Handles wonderfully as a ride or medium crash. Very responsive for crashing and accenting.
SOLD – NEW – Cymbal & Gong 18″ Custom Turk Jazz Ride – 1439g – “Minoru” – $355.00
Masaru and Minoru were custom ordered together— Minoru is lower pitched, with a slight exotic edge. This cymbal wants to be in a crashable ride role— crashes and accents nicely, but the darker crash sound may not be the best for a dedicated crash cymbal.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 18″ Holy Grail Crash – “Igor” – 1335 grams – $355.00
Medium thin crash, excellent multi-purpose cymbal, handles moderate riding well.
Cymbal & Gong 17″ Holy Grail crash cymbal – 1172 grams – “Jake” – $335.00
These two new 17s Jake and Jody are quite similar. Moderately dark, with no overly wild/exotic/trashy elements. Medium-thin crashes with very pleasing, subtly different crash sounds, and both handle light riding well- they don’t ride up or splash out. Jody is the higher-pitched of the two.
NEW – Cymbal & Gong 16″ Holy Grail Medium Thin Crash – 949g – “Knox” – $310.00
Energetic little cymbal. Could work as a crash for a fairly aggressive player, or a lively ridable crash for a lighter combo setting— maybe not the cymbal for someone wanting just a fast crash for low volumes.
Cymbal & Gong 15″ Holy Grail Hihats – 892/1096 grams – “Ulrich” – $490.00
Jazz weight hihats with a darker open sound, but with a strong foot sound and closed. Pleasingly cutting.
Cymbal & Gong 15″ Holy Grail Hihats – 899/1109 grams – “Kingsley” – $490.00
Higher-pitched jazz-weight hihats with a solid foot sound and closed sound. Dark, pleasing open/half-open sound.
Cymbal & Gong 14″ Holy Grail Hihats – 802/1005 grams – “Eugene” – $425.00
Lively, medium-pitched, light-medium weight hihats.
Archived listings of sold cymbals.
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SOLD – Holy Grail 22″ Jazz Ride “Hassan” – 2148 grams
Airy, complex jazz ride— classic “K” sound. Higher pitched, lush crash sound, restrained bell sound. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – Holy Grail 22″ Jazz Ride “Eloi” – 2085 grams
Unusual jazz-weight A-type ride. Slightly exotic. Nice low roar, with a very responsive, full, booming crash with a light bwah sound. Sonorous, cutting bell sound. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – 22″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride “Maxim” – 2102 grams
Classic dark, deep jazz sound. Sound reminiscent of Art Blakey’s 20″ ride played on The Big Beat and Indestructible. Also compare to the cymbal “Richard” below. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 22″ Ride – “Richard” – approx. 2100 grams
A great jazz cymbal, with a focused, controlled sound. Cool, deep bell sound, and a big deep crash. See video of the unpatinated cymbal. Video of patinated cymbal.
SOLD – Holy Grail 22″ Ride – “Louis” – approx. 2100 grams
Excellent jazz-weight cymbal. C&G jazz rides tend to be a little heavier than the equivalent model of other brands, giving them better definition and projection, and a good bell sound, while maintaining the dark, complex sound favored by most jazz drummers. Higher pitched than Richard. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 22″ Jazz Ride – “Ewell” – 2126 grams
Big, live jazz sound; somewhat splashy crash sound; deep, mellow bell. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 22″ Jazz Ride – “Taylor” – 2183 grams
Dark, with great definition; fast crash. Deep bell sound. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong Midnight Lamp 22″ Light Ride – “Clevon”
Custom unlathed “Midnight Lamp” series. Light ride, smaller bell than Holy Grail rides. Fundamentally low pitched, with a very low cushion of sound. Great definition, controlled sound, as expected with unlathed cymbals. Great for low volume playing, recording, and practicing. Video.
SOLD – FACTORY SECOND – 22″ Medium Ride “Mallory” – 2360 grams
Excellent, very playable A-type light-medium ride. All of C&G’s medium rides are crashable, with a good balance between clean and complex harmonic profile. They would never be mistaken for a modern A-type cymbal by a major brand. This cymbal has a warm, relatively clean sound, long sustain, and an awesome, very full, musical crash sound at fortissimo levels. It will make a good jazz ride, or medium ride in settings where a live, full-sounding cymbal is called for.
A minor technical flaw in the manufacturing process means you get a big discount on this cymbal. There’s a slight flaw with the lathing— the lathed-away metal is stuck in the grooves in a few spots. Only visible on close inspection, there is some light surface roughness in those spots. This makes no detectable difference in sound, and will not affect the life of the cymbal. Tim at Cymbal & Gong tells me you could go in with a dental tool and remove the stuck bits, but you will probably just play it as is.
This cymbal has the Holy Grail-type patina, but as a factory second, it has no C&G cold stamp or label.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 22″ Holy Grail ride cymbal – 2379 grams – “Ivan”
Prodigious light-medium ride with 50s-style A-type bell- very similar to my own 22″ Holy Grail. A powerful and full jazz ride that nevertheless handles well at trio volume, especially when played with light sticks. A substantial cymbal to have as your main axe. Video.
SOLD – 22″ Leon Collection Light Ride – 2106g – “Briand”
Higher pitched, more controlled ride than its companion Aramis, which is also 2106g. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – 20″ Cymbal & Gong Leon Collection Ride – 1584g – “Hector”
Two great 20″ Leon Collection rides in this shipment; both perform wonderfully, with very pleasing ride and crash sounds. Hector is the funkier of the two; with a slightly rougher finish and sound, and lower pitch. A very hip cymbal, and surprisingly light! Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 20″ Jazz Ride – “Willie” – 1721 grams
Another solid classic jazz ride; very dark, great definition; responsive to accents. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 20″ Jazz Ride – “Walter” – 1732 grams
Light-medium jazz ride, high pitched with a dark sound. Nice airy crash sound, cutting bell. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Cymbal & Gong Holy Grail Jazz Ride “Tyrell” – 1766 grams
High, dark jazz sound. Moderately complex harmonic profile. Very controllable, defined ride cymbal, considering its light weight. Handles like a traditional medium. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail Jazz Ride “Lavar” – 1770 grams
High, dark jazz sound. Moderately complex harmonic profile. Very controllable, defined ride cymbal, considering its light weight. Video.
SOLD – 20″ Cymbal & Gong Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1776 grams – “Enoch”
Smoky jazz ride, deep sound, rather dry. Handles beautifully, very controllable light ride with a great crash sound. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail ride cymbal – 1791 grams – “Abel”
Jazz-weight cymbal with a rather deep sound, very controllable, with good stick definition, while having the kind of wash we expect from jazz cymbals. Moderately dark, with no overly wild/exotic/trashy elements. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Cymbal & Gong Holy Grail Jazz Ride – 1795 grams – “Desmond” – $410.00
Jazz ride, excellent left side cymbal, can easily serve as a main ride. Higher pitched, relatively bright bell and crash sound. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – Holy Grail 20″ Jazz Ride – “Clarence” – 1834 grams
Light-medium jazz ride, controlled and focused, with great definition; responsive to accents, higher pitched. Good as a primary ride, and versatile. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 20″ Jazz Ride – “Pete” – 1845 grams
Classic dark jazz ride. Complex sound with good stick definition. Slight exotic edge on accents and crashes. Good as a primary ride! Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 20″ Jazz Ride – “Moyes” – 1845 grams
Complex but solid jazz ride, excellent main cymbal. Long crash sound. 11/9/18 update: This cymbal is currently getting a special heavy patina, which will dry its sound. Video.
SOLD – 20″ Holy Grail Medium Ride – “Idris” – 1974 grams
50s-style square bell. Great, musical light-medium ride for all kinds of music. Traditional sound with cutting power. Video.
Cymbal & Gong 20″ Holy Grail ride cymbal – 1964 grams – “Cassius”
Medium jazz ride- a strong and versatile choice for a main ride cymbal. Possible candidate for adding rivets. Moderately dark, with no overly wild/exotic/trashy elements. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – Holy Grail 20″ Medium Ride – “Lee” – approx. 2000 grams
Solid, musical, medium ride suited to all kinds of music. Lighter in weight than major-manufacturer medium rides. Excellent definition and a clean tone, strong bell sound and not-quite-explosive crash, while still having a warm, deep, old-A sound. I find that C&G’s medium weight cymbals handle soft playing very nicely. Video.
SOLD – Mersey Beat 20″ Crash-Ride – “Freddie”
Brighter, “A”-like sound, but musically complex, the 20″ Mersey Beat makes an excellent jazz ride cymbal, especially as a left-side cymbal. Freddie is lower pitched than other examples of this model we have played. All 20″ Mersey Beat cymbals have four rivets, at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock. Video.
SOLD – 20″ Cymbal & Gong Merseybeat Crash-Ride “Tommy” – 1915 grams
Pleasingly bright light ride. Crashable, but with good stick definition through a range of dynamics— the wash does not over ride the stick sound. Strong bell. 4 rivets. Video.
SOLD – Mersey Beat 20″ Crash-Ride – “Dave” – 2175 grams
With four rivets. Bright and clean, with enough complexity to be interesting. Musical crash and bell sounds. Video.
NFS – Holy Grail 20″ Swish – “Ferdinand” – 1466 grams
Large bell and wide flange, medium-thin in weight. Great sounding Chinese-style cymbal. Very responsive for soft or loud accents, good for light riding. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 20″ Leon Collection Ride – 1600g – “Serge”
Two great 20″ Leon Collection rides in this shipment; both perform wonderfully, with very pleasing ride and crash sounds. Serge is the smoother of the two, with restrained brightness, a complex harmonic profile, and moderately pitched. Functions very well as a ride cymbal despite its light weight. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – 20″ Leon Collection flat ride cymbal – 1524 grams – “Clemente”
Moderately light, airy, quite delicate flat ride- though much more usable than many extremely light flats I have seen from other Turkish brands. Like all Leon Collection cymbals it has a pleasingly bright sound. Like most flat rides, it doesn’t accent well. A light musical sound for low volume situations. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – Holy Grail 19″ Jazz Ride – 1764 grams – “Edgar”
Solid-performing medium weight jazz ride. Classic jazz sound with excellent projection. Video.
19″ Custom medium flat ride cymbal – 1674 grams – “Knut”
Comparable to a 602 Medium Flat Ride, with a punchy stick sound. Similar to the famous Now He Sings… cymbal, but tighter. Somewhat one-dimensional as it doesn’t accent well, but that’s normal for flat rides. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – 18″ Holy Grail Ride – “Perry” – 1717 grams
Medium jazz ride, moderately dark, cutting stick sound. Solid enough to use as a main ride. Does not quite open up for an explosive fortissimo crash, but accents very nicely with the shoulder of the stick. Good candidate for adding rivets. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – American Artist 18″ Crash “Gregor” – 1379 grams
Full, responsive, lower pitched, all purpose medium-thin crash. Powerful crash sound. Fine for light riding in a jazz setting. Sticks used are Bopworks Birdland model, and Vic Firth SD-4 Combos. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 18″ Holy Grail Crash – “Otto” – 1388 grams – $340.00
Medium thin crash— approaching a medium crash— excellent multi-purpose cymbal, handles moderate riding well. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – Leon Collection 18″ Thin Crash – “Zénon”
This is a special line of cymbals by C&G’s lead smith, with superfine lathing and a bright finish. They are very lush and responsive, with an unusual harmonic profile— fairly subtly so with this cymbal. Zénon has a big, full crash sound, and also handles light riding very well. Video.
SOLD – Leon Collection 18″ Crash “Yanis” – 1336 grams
Bright, airy, high-pitched thin-to-medium thin crash. Crash sound has a strong, cutting peak. Good for light riding in acoustic situations. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ crash cymbal – 1324 grams – “Wilhelm”
Powerful medium thin crash, great choice for a smaller left side cymbal. Moderately dark, with no overly wild/exotic/trashy elements- similar to the 17s Jake and Jody from the same batch, but Wilhelm is lower pitched, a little funkier, and generally a more powerful cymbal. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ Crash – “Austin” – 1391 grams
Solid medium thin crash, decent for light riding. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ Crash – “Chan” – 1402 grams
Another great medium thin crash. All three of these 18s are great left side cymbals for bebop. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ Crash-Ride – “Connie” – 1404 grams
Medium-thin crash that makes a great crash-ride. Doesn’t build up when riding. High pitched but dark sound. Pleasant, delicate bell sound. Video.
SOLD – Mersey Beat 18″ Crash-Ride “Clive” – 1411 grams
Bright, responsive, crash ride; good for light riding, crash sound peaks nicely. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ Crash-Ride – “Erskine” – 1424 grams
Clean, dark, classic jazz sound. Responsive to crashing, also great for light riding. This could be labeled a Crash-Ride, or Medium Thin Crash. Video.
SOLD – Custom 18″ unlathed ride “Toshiro” – 1472 grams
Custom Turk-style— unlathed top, lathed bottom. Dark, clean, and very dry. Great cymbal for low volume situations, recording, rehearsals. Video.
SOLD – Custom 18″ unlathed ride “Alexei” – 1569 grams
Turk style— or as C&G smiths say, “Krut.” Crashable ride cymbal with very defined stick sound, strong bell sound. Small, but solid enough to function as a main ride. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ Crash-Ride “Henry”- 1595 grams
Categorized as a crash-ride, but this is more of a light-medium ride. A classic clean jazz sound. Does not quite open up for an explosive fortissimo crash, but accents very nicely with the shoulder of the stick. Sticks used are Bopworks Birdland model, and Vic Firth SD-4 Combos. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 18″ crash cymbal – 1169 grams – “Jody”
These two new 17s Jake and Jody are quite similar. Moderately dark, with no overly wild/exotic/trashy elements. They handle very similarly, with very pleasing, subtly different crash sounds, and both handle light riding well- they don’t ride up or splash out. Jody is the higher-pitched of the two. Video
SOLD – 17″ Leon Collection Thin Crash – 1104g – “Marc”
Excellent thin crash, that also handles light riding well. 17 is the new 18— large enough for light riding, capable of a fast accent in acoustic settings. Very similar to its companion Luc— Marc is slightly lower pitched and with a “breathier” sound. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – 17″ Leon Collection Thin Crash – 1116g – “Luc”
Excellent thin crash, that also handles light riding well. Very similar to its companion, Marc— Luc is slightly higher pitch with a slightly cleaner sound. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – Holy Grail 16″ Thin Crash – 884 grams – “Martin”
This is a Cymbal & Gong classic— beautifully blended, complex, warm crash sound with no off-harmonics. Outstanding crash sound. It’s such a responsive crash that it doesn’t ride quite as well as Bastien below… but 16″ is typically a little small do much riding on anyway. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 16″ Thin Crash – 914 grams – “Bastien”
Funky low pitched (for the size) crash with unusual patina and hammering. A few C&G cymbals have a “dead” quality I really like— they sound like old cymbals that have been played a lot. This is one of them. Another nice quality of C&G crashes is that they tend to ride extremely well, while also being very responsive as crashes— again, that’s this cymbal. Video.
SOLD – American Artist 14″ Light Hihats “Iain” – 765/902 grams – BARGAIN
Light, pleasingly bright, splashy, with a good, non-mushy foot sound. Great cymbals at a bargain price.
These are BARGAIN grade cymbals— they were used by an endorser and returned. They are in new condition, except they have been handled and played a bit. They do not have a C&G stamp or label. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 14″ Hihats – 793/1002 grams – “Lamark”
Quick, lively, darker sound, but higher-pitched, with nice aggressive harmony between the two cymbals. Video.
SOLD – American Artist 14″ Medium Hihats “Mike” – 942/1159 grams – BARGAIN
Bright, chunky medium hihats. Excellent all-purpose hihats at a bargain price.
These are BARGAIN grade cymbals— they were used on a gig by an endorser and returned (he wanted something heavier). They are in new condition, except they have been handled and played a bit. Video.
SOLD – American Artist 14″ Medium Hihats “Brock” – 992/1210 grams
Medium hihats, high pitched, pleasingly bright timbre. Solid foot sound. Excellent, musical, all-purpose cymbals, good for jazz, as well as music where more cutting power is needed. Sticks used are Vic Firth SD-4 Combos. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 15″ Hihats – 881/1147 grams – “Jarvis”
Fantastic set of jazz cymbals! Just a perfect, classic, clean, moderately-dark sound. Video.
SOLD – FACTORY SECOND 15″ light hihats “Campbell” – approximately 850/1025 grams
Great cymbals at a bargain price! This would be a wonderful set of Holy Grail hihats, but someone at the factory dropped them, and there are dings on the edge of both cymbals— approximately 2-3mm. I think that is what’s commonly called a “flea bite”— it should not significantly effect the life of the the cymbals. The patina looks nice, but is somewhat more irregular than is normally expected. As factory seconds they do not bear a C&G cold stamp or label. Sticks used are Vic Firth SD-4 Combos. Video.
SOLD – 15″ Holy Grail Light Hihats “Grady” – 836/1019 grams
Lovely, lush, complex, thin hihats. Relatively soft foot sound, with a beautiful sizzle played half open. Sticks used are Vic Firth SD-4 Combos. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 15″ Light Hihats – 837/1024 grams – “Cliff”
Wonderful, very versatile semi-dark, thin cymbals. Solid foot sound, great sizzle. Video.
SOLD – Holy Grail 16″ Light Hihats – 875/1086 grams – “Otis”
These large hihats are becoming a very popular item. If you’ve ever played any old, very thin K hihats, Otis is the giant Chrysler Imperial version of that. It’s hard to describe these cymbals with normal words: dark, massive sizzle; traditional mooshy foot sound; chunky/funky stick sound; whooshing open sound. Listen to Charli Persip play with Gil Evans to get an idea of the family from which these cymbals come. Video.
SOLD – 15″ Leon Collection Light Hihats – 860/1050g – “Maurice”
Perfect balance for light hihats- complex, responsive, airy open sound, solid foot sound. Play video in new tab.
SOLD – 16″ Cymbal & Gong Holy Grail Hihats – 1044/1250g – “Phineas”
We got two fantastic sets of jazz weight 16″ hihats in this recent shipment. This set Phineas has a beautiful dark jazz sound with a lush sizzle when played half-open. Video.
SOLD – Cymbal & Gong 16″ Holy Grail Hihats – 1046/1300g – “Horace”
We got two fantastic sets of jazz weight 16″ hihats in this recent shipment. This set Horace has a huge, deep sound, with a nice harmonic interaction between the two cymbals. Video.